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Several cards i have encountered have consequences formulated like:
"Each involved character takes a {XXX} card & {-2 durability pips}." Other cards use the word "and" instead of "&": "Each involved character takes a {XXX} card and {YYY} card." The explicit use of "&" instead of "and" seems to imply that "&" should be interpreted differently than "and". Which of the following is the correct interpretation of the first example shown above: 1) "Each involved character takes a {XXX} card and the group takes a total of {-2 pips} (shared among the group, as described on page 17)." 2) "Each involved character takes a {XXX} card and the group takes {-2 pips} per character (shared among the group, as described on page 17)." 3) "Each involved character takes a {XXX} card and each involved character takes {-2 pips} (applied only to their own Inventory)." 4) Something different. ? i currently use interpretation #1 because (A) it most closely matches the rules on page 17 and (B) because there "must" be some significance regarding its use of "&" instead of "and" , but i also feel that #2 might be the intended interpretation, as it scales the penalty with the number of characters. (On the other hand, more characters means fewer Inventory items each, so the pip penalty might not need to be scaled.) Posté - Edité
Maybe is it a typo problem ?
In french, we don't give different meaning for "&/and". I tag this topic for the author. Firebird (ma ludothèque) T7Continent : DV, OG, LG --- SI, [CD+SI] --- Histoire, Pénitence, Funéraille --- [SI+TS] T7Citadel : Posté
Hi,
"&" and "and" have the same meaning here. "&" is mostly used when it applies to different effects such as "takes a {XXX} card & {-2 durability pips}" where "and" usually applies for the same effet "take card XXX and card YYY". Posté
BrunoS a écrit : Hi, Great, thank you :). Which of the multiple interpretations of "each character takes XXX &/and -Y pips" listed in the top post is correct? Posté
My point of view is a weak argument, but if your example is about a climb action , I think the best interpretation is :
3) "Each involved character takes a {XXX} card and each involved character takes {-2 pips} (applied only to their own Inventory)." Because each character who has failed climbing should suffer the consequences of the fall. Sometimes, guessing the author's will behind the rule helps to better understand the rule. I hope that Bruno could come back to check this point. Firebird (ma ludothèque) T7Continent : DV, OG, LG --- SI, [CD+SI] --- Histoire, Pénitence, Funéraille --- [SI+TS] T7Citadel : Posté
Firebird a écrit : My point of view is a weak argument, but if your example is about a climb action , I think the best interpretation is : My instinct is to interpret it the same way you do, but that interpretation conflicts with the rulebook's description (page 17), which says that "pip damage" is applied across the affected players, distributed as the players like. The example given on page 17 also conflicts with this interpretation, but that example only includes pip damage, and not the phrase "each player takes ... AND {pip damage}". Posté
Ping... is there an official statement on which of the interpretations listed in the first post is the valid one for the case of "... and {-X pips}"? The interpretation which seems most appropriate (#3) contradicts the rulebook (page 17).
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It's not necessary to ping each day.
I know that Bruno must come here; I already flag this topic; and I'll remind him after the launch of the KS campain (when I'll ask him to review the new version of the FAQ). Please be patient. While waiting for an official response, use the interpretation that suits you best: the game will remain balanced overall whatever your decision. Firebird (ma ludothèque) T7Continent : DV, OG, LG --- SI, [CD+SI] --- Histoire, Pénitence, Funéraille --- [SI+TS] T7Citadel : Posté
Sorry! I somehow strangely missed that it was pinged just before, that was unintentionally rude (or rather, blind) of me! I saw only the time stamp of the post above dated about 24 days ago. Will pay more attention to the hidden numbers both in and out of the game from now on! :)
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No problemo. Hasta la vista !
Firebird (ma ludothèque) T7Continent : DV, OG, LG --- SI, [CD+SI] --- Histoire, Pénitence, Funéraille --- [SI+TS] T7Citadel : Posté
Hello !
A french player asked the same question recently and the author answer him : here I'm sorry but I don't have time now to translate the message with the required attention. I hope it will help you anyway ! Firebird (ma ludothèque) T7Continent : DV, OG, LG --- SI, [CD+SI] --- Histoire, Pénitence, Funéraille --- [SI+TS] T7Citadel : Posté
sgbeal a écrit :
The pipe damage is applied across the affected player UNLESS a specific character is targeted like "the active character" or "all characters involved". In this case each character apply the pipe damage. 7/12 reste : WGUMCD(\VT\CC)+DV+TS 7 (2 DV-1 SI-1 CD-1 OG-1 PV-1 PN) 101h Armaggedon en cours ! Posté
Translated!
Feel free to correct my english if needed BrunoS a écrit : Hi everyone, Les pérégrinations d'un Ludopathe dans le monde ludique : https://LeLudopathe.fr Posté
Arnaud a écrit : Translated! Merci ! Firebird (ma ludothèque) T7Continent : DV, OG, LG --- SI, [CD+SI] --- Histoire, Pénitence, Funéraille --- [SI+TS] T7Citadel : |
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