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JCML, you've hit the critical question here and nobody seems to have a definitive answer. Not even Serious Poulp themselves.

The definitive solution to all of this anxiety for us newbie backers is to have SP provide an official count of all cards that get shuffled, and offer a median level of sleeve buyup ($35 for example) that provides protection for all blue backed cards as well as other cards which get an occasional shuffle.

You and I have no practical way of figuring this out since we don't have the game in our hands, nor do we have the gaming experience to know which cards actually get shuffled. SP is in the unique position to inform us of this, since they know which cards will be added later to the game like advanced skills and other mystery cards that gamers wouldn't know of until they encounter them.

Instead we have to rely on internet gossip and guesses, which just increases anxiety.

Please SP, provide an official count for shuffled cards, ideally with a reference list of cards that we should sleeve.

Thanks for pointing that out. I printed out the PDF on double sided matte photo paper and didn't realize it didn't quite fit. (I did "fit to page" option on my print settings). It would be great if the SP gang could put it in the downloads page here.

Hi KRBJ

I've got some questions for you!

I've been trying to figure out how many packs of 200 cards I'm going to need. I went in for the Rookie/All-In on the second Kickstarter.

I only want to sleeve cards that receive regular shuffling. Since I don't have the game yet, I'm unsure which cards these are for sure, but based on what I've read these are the Action cards (blue back) and Exploration cards (foggy back). So, for sure I'm going to want to sleeve all of these. As I said, I'm all-in on the WCUMCD expansion and all of the optional card scenarios, so any Exploration or Action cards to be found in those sets, I'll want to sleeve. (The BGG community FAQ does not yet include info on the expansion).

In addition to the Action and Exploration cards receiving regular shuffling, what other cards in the game are shuffled? As I understand, the Adventure cards (green/gold backs) are simply laid down and replaced in their boxes, and receive gentle treatment, so I don't see the need to sleeve these.

Any advice you can provide will be very helpful and greatly appreciated, as there does not seem to be any definitive info out there.

Thanks!

Thanks for pointing this out-- in theory this sheet would be quite useful, but it doesn't seem to be precise enough. For example, I can only say yes or no as to whether I want to sleeve the base box. Well, yes and no-- I want to sleeve the often shuffled cards, and not the adventure cards. There doesn't seem to be a way to separate them out.

I'm also a bit confused by the 4th column qualifier "include if you choose 'Aventure' cards"-- surely these expansions include more than just Adventure cards? You'd know better than I would, as I do not have the game to reference.

It seems like there should be an update on the card count before the Pledge Manager comes online, so that players can accurately gauge how many sleeves to buy. I want to sleeve all of the cards that receive regular shuffling.

I've gone all-in on 2nd Kickstarter, having backed the base game, the major expansion, and all of the smaller card expansions, including BGG/Tric Trac. I'm 100% in as far as cards go.

I'm definitely interested in sleeving any cards that get shuffled, and it sounds like that means sleeving:

- the Action Deck (blue back)
- the Exploration (foggy back)

I'm not really interested in sleeving cards that are not shuffled, such as:

- Adventure cards (green/gold backs)

Based on what I've read here and on BGG, the 200 sleeves/$10 optional buy will not be enough to accommodate what I'm trying to do, but I also haven't found any kind of an accurate count as to how to tally this.

Could someone please advise me as to how many cards will experience regular shuffling, so I know how many $10 packets of 200 to purchase?

And if there are other cards which receive regular shuffling that I have not included here, could you please include that in your estimation?

Thanks!

I was following Bruno until he wrote "(which is therefore discarded)".

Does that mean that the unlimited durability item (in this case, the Sharp Stone) is "therefore discarded" after being used? This doesn't make sense. It's an unlimited item-- why would it be discarded?

I just played the first Kickstarter Print and Play demo with the alpha rules, as a way to stave off my ever growing urge to pay this game for real. I really enjoyed it.

So, this is for the rules masters at SP. I would like to know what your intent was.

I noticed that the demo ends with your explorer arriving at the 7th Continent at one of three different starting card locations, depending on where and by what means you left the islet. Did you follow through by designing three different entry points to the Continent based on how the demo ends, essentially giving demo players am experience that most players will never have?

And since the demo segues rather seamlessly into the full game, does that mean any items we found in the demo would also carry over into the real game?

Would any other cards from the action deck transfer over to the full game? What was the designers intent?

Thanks for making such an intriguing game!!

Where can I find the alpha rules that are compatible with the PnP? The link on the original Kickstarter page is broken.

Fair enough.



Somehow I can't see myself opting for this

I suppose adding the expansions after 7 months of familiarizing myself with the game will allow me to feel a broadening of the world in a way that going all-in from the start would prevent. I'll ameliorate my impatience with this mantra.

This is to the gang at Serious Poulp:

I was reviewing your terms regarding the two waves of shipping. Namely:

"The First Wave will include the new "Second edition" base box and non-cards optional purchases (such as bone dice & dice bag, sleeves, etc.). This wave is slated for March 2018.

The Second Wave, due in October 2018, will include the new expansion "What Goes Up, Must Come Down", all optional buys with cards (old and new) as well as Stretch Goals from this campaign."

It sounds like the first Kickstarter backers got the best scenario, in that they got to play the game from the beginning with many of the optional buys, like weather, devourers, Icy Maze, etc.

Is there any chance that new backers like me will have that same opportunity? I'm talking specifically about receiving, with the base box, the optional card buys that have already been released, and not the new ones introduced in the second campaign.

If this is not possible, I'm curious what allowed for this to happen for the first KS campaign?

Thanks! I'm really looking forward to playing.